You guys have been asking for this week’s guest for a long time, and we finally got her in the studio: Caroline Hirons is here! She talks about the correct order to apply products, “clean” beauty, INCI lists, the Environmental Working Group (EWG), the beauty industry patriarchy, myths about pores, acid solutions, hyaluronic acid, her favorite products, and so much more. In this episode, we also share the week’s beauty headlines; talk about KhairPep, an innovative bond-repairing hair treatment; discuss our neuromas and aching feet (sorry!); and raise a want to two skin gadgets we actually use.
Below are links to the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi) reach out to us on Instagram, Twitter or via email (info@fatmascara.com).
This Week in Beauty News:
Queer Eye’s Karamo Brown is launching Mantl, a brand for bald guys
Huda Kattan launches Wishful, a skincare line with just one product (for now)
Selena Gomez is launching a cosmetics brand called Rare Beauty, which will be available at Sephora this summer
Gucci Westman has a new beauty chat show on YouTube
Birchbox just laid off 25 percent of its employees
The FDA held a hearing on asbestos testing in talc
Also in this episode:
Jon Reyman
Spoke & Weal
KHairPep - the bond-building treatment
neuromas
Dr. Jackie Prevete
What we talked about with Caroline Hirons:
Skin Care: The Ultimate No-Nonsense Guide - her new book, available for pre-order now!
Caroline Hirons Skincare Freaks Facebook Group
Sylvie Chantecaille
Chantecaille
Clarins
Environmental Working Group
The Goop Lab - the Netflix show
Glossier Solution
Pixi Glow Tonic
Paula’s Choice Skin Perfecting 2% BHA Liquid Exfoliant
Biologique Recherche P50 Lotion - there are five varieties in the U.S.; this is the OG 1970 version
Kérastase Reflection Mask for Color Treated Hair - Caroline loves the product but not the packaging
Estée Lauder Advanced Night Repair Eye Concentrate Matrix
Caroline suggests applying products in this order (but, she warns, the order is still dependent on the formulas you’re using, so it’s best to consult an aesthetician if you’re unsure): oil or balm cleanser; creamy or foaming cleanser; acids/acid solutions; mists or essences; eye cream; serum (or any face oils that are humectants or have active ingredients); other face oils; moisturizer (but listen to the podcast, because Caroline agrees with us that oils with occlusives can go on last)
Vintner’s Daughter Active Botanical Serum
Avène
Nerida Joy - facialist who is hands on
Jordan Samuel - facialist who is hands on
Renée Rouleau - facialist who is hands on
Kate Somerville - facialist who loves a machine
Joanna Vargas - facialist who loves a machine
Emma Hardie Moringa Balm Cleanser
Pixi + Caroline Hirons Double Cleanse
Biologique Recherche P50 Lotion
Kate Somerville Line Release Under Eye Repair Cream
Clinique or Estée Lauder mascara
Neutrogena Hydro Boost Hyaluronic Acid Hydrating Face Moisturizer Gel-Cream
Kate Somerville Deep Tissue Repair Cream with Peptide K8
Darphin Aromatic Purifying Balm
Hagen-Dazs Pralines & Cream Ice Cream
“Never Too Much” by Luther Vandross
#RaiseAWand
Listener Raise A Wand from Mary Fran (thanks Mary Fran!): IGK Good Behavior Spray
Jenn: Dermapore Deep Cleansing Device
Jess: Dermaflash Exfoliating Facial Treatment