Best of FM: How to Talk to Kids About Beauty with Makeup Artist Jamie Greenberg

In this interview (our most popular of 2024!), we talk to celebrity makeup artist Jamie Greenberg, a mom of three, about a timely topic: How young is too young for makeup and skincare? How can parents encourage self expression without glorifying consumerism? Should adults talk to kids about the downsides of plastic surgery and photo filters? Plus, she shares her makeup tricks for hooded eyelids, creasing concealer, and how to really get your makeup brushes clean.

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Jamie Greenberg
@jamiemakeup - her instagram
@jamiemakeup - her tiktok
Robert Rumsey - mua
Jillian Dempsey - her instagram
Lionel Richie - his instagram
Katrina Bowden - one of Jamie’s early clients
Jamie Greenberg Shows Us Her Boudoir - by allure
Pretty Little Pranksters - a beauty prank show by Jamie
Jamie Makeup Blighlighter
Jamie Makeup The Bloss
Jamie Makeup Eye Schtick
Katie Jane Hughes
Galderma cosmetic injectables: Restylane, Dysport
Caveat - handles Jamie Makeup creative
Dr. Nathan Newman - did microneedling with plant stem cells on Jamie’s eyelids
Dr. Michael J. Groth - the opthalmic plastic surgeon who does all the celebrities’ eyes
IL MAKIAGE Foundation
IL MAKIAGE Concealer
Parian Spirit Professional Makeup Brush Cleaner
ZOTE Soap - Jamie’s rec for washing makeup brushes!
MAYBELLINE Instant Age Rewind Concealer
CLE DE PEAU Concealer
NARS Radiant Creamy Concealer
DOLL 10 Concealer
TOWER 28 Concealer
MAC Studio Fix Concealer
KOSAS Concealer
BOBBI BROWN Concealer
Glossier Balm Dotcom
PHLUR - Missing Person
STATE OF CHANGE - Joy solid perfume
STATE OF CHANGE - Grace solid perfume
VASELINE - for runner’s chafe
Katie Sturino
MEGABABE | Thigh Rescue Antifriction Stick - for runner’s chafe
Chilipad Cube Sleep System

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Candlemaker Louis Hotchkiss on The Secrets of His Craft

We’re lighting up the holiday season with candlemaker Louis Hotchkiss, the former president of KOBO candles. Here’s here to answer all our candle questions. Which wax burns the cleanest? How do containers, wicks, and fragrances affect burn rate? Why do some wick tips form a mushroom shape after they burn? How can you tell if a candle with have a good scent throw? All that and more. This interview originally aired in 2021 and is presented here with a fresh intro. We’ll be back with new episodes in the new year!

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram, Twitter, or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Louis Hotchkiss
KOBO Pure Soy Candles
Vintage Estee Lauder candles
Essential oils for pets: which aren’t safe?
Candle terms glossary
Types of candle wax: which is best?
Cire Trudon Abd El Kader Moroccan Mint Tea candle
KOBO Saffron Sandalwood candle - now discontinued
KOBO Vetiver Shaved Vanilla candle
KOBO Pamplemousse candle
Edge Sensitive Skin Shaving Gel (the first grooming product he fell in love with)
Water No Get Enemy by Fela Kuti
Morgan Freeman
Milton Nascimento

Best of FM: Hairstylist Nikki Nelms

It’s impossible to listen to Nikki Nelms share her story and not be inspired! The celebrity hairstylist—who’s worked with Beyoncé, Bjork, Janelle Monáe, and others—explains why she doesn’t need mood boards to create hair magic and never “looks to the side” for her ideas. She talks about how she got her start styling hair, the surprising tools and accessories in her kit, how she continues to innovate, and some of her favorite products, including the most hydrating shampoo and candles she can’t get enough of. 

Below, you’ll find links to the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi) reach out to us on Instagram, Twitter or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can call us at 646-481-8182, and leave us a message. We love hearing from you.

Nikki Nelms - her instagram
Hype Hair - one of the hair magazines Nikki was featured in at the beginning of her career
Essence Festival New Orleans - where Nikki met Lil Wayne
A Seat at the Table - Nikki did Solange’s hair for this album
Kanye West’s Gold Digger - Nikki worked on this video
Janelle Monáe’s googly eye hairstyle - Nikki shared the backstory behind this look
Flexi Rods - flexible curling rods
Maui Moisture Shine + Awapuhi Vegan Shampoo - This is in Nikki’s “prep” kit
Maui Moisture Shine + Awapuhi Vegan Conditioner - so is this!
Sebastian Professional Shaper Hairspray - in Nikki’s “on set” kit
Kate Somerville Nourish + Cleanse Trio - Nikki uses these
Shani Darden Skincare Retinol Reform - Nikki uses this because Kelly Rowland recommended it (and Kelly’s skin is amazing!)
Grapeseed Oil - mix into your conditioner for a DIY hair mask
Olive Oil - mix into your conditioner for a DIY hair mask
Diptyque Candles in Baies and 34 - Nikki’s favorites
Avon facial cleansing foam - the first beauty product Nikki fell in love with
Erykah Badu
Banana Pudding from Doc’s Cake Shop (aka Doc D’s) - Nikki’s favorite dessert
Nutter Butter Peanut Butter Wafer Cookie - Nikki also loves these
“My 1st Song” by Jay Z - The song that pumps Nikki up

Raise A Wand:
Nikki: Maui Moisture Weightless Oil Mist - makes your hair red-carpet ready!

The Annual Naughty & Nice (But, But, But!) Special

Jenn & Jess reveal the year’s biggest moments in beauty culture—what we loved (nice), hated (naughty) and loved and hated with caveats (but, but, but!). We’re talking about contrast makeup theory; Pantone’s color of the year; the beauty industry’s use of artificial intelligence; the TikTokification of makeup trends; everybody’s obsession with Lindsay Lohan’s face; influencers making their own “traditional” sunscreens and toothpastes; Demi Moore in The Substance; a surprise voicemail that had us reeling; and so much more. Enjoy!

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Jenn’s Naughty: The Pantone Color of the Year
Mocha Mousse

Jess’s Naughty: Objectifying People’s Plastic Surgery (especially Lindsay Lohan)
Lindsey Lohan’s Transformation Stuns Fans. Are we in the ‘undetectable era’ of plastic surgery?

Jenn’s Nice: Makeup Contrast Theory
Mastering Facial Contrast with MUA Aliénor
Aliénor - her TikTok account
Trinny Woodall - her instagram

Jess’s Nice: New York Times’s The Daily Episode: The Appeal of the Smaller Breast

Jenn’s Nice: Artificial Intelligence Breakthroughs in Beauty
How Technology Is Changing Beauty Culture with Dr. Alex Box
Osmo
Alex Wiltschko - CEO of Osmo
HelloBiome - AI powered microbiome platform

Jess’s Nice: Demi Moore in The Substance
Demi Moore - her instagram
The Substance - available via Amazon Prime
Bobbi Brown - her instagram
Jenny Fine - Editor at WWD

Jenn’s Nice: Our new Fat Mascara Contributors & Favorite things We Learned From Them
Julee - her instagram
Garrett - his instagram

Jess’s Naughty: Beauty Looks Being “In” or “Out,” According to Social Media Microtrends Moments
Urban Decay | Naked Eyeshadow Palette

Jenn’s Naughty: Ancestral Beauty Trends (beef tallow, DIY skincare, raw milk, etc.)
Nara Smith - her tiktok
Why Is Everyone Putting Beef Tallow on Their Face? - Jenn’s article for The Cut
Raw Milk: The Influencer Wellness Fad With a Side of Bird Flu - business of fashion

Jenn & Jess’s Nice: A Voicemail We Got from Jennifer Aniston
LolaVie | Glossing Detangler

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Ep. 559: “Undetectable” Plastic Surgery, Filler Below The Belt & The Week’s Beauty News

There’s so much happening in cosmetic surgery for Jenn & Garrett to discuss: Lindsay Lohan’s new face; politicians getting work done; “labia puff” and penis filler procedures; and all the new ways to stop aging (and whether or not to partake or disclose). We also do a live fragrance test of Harry’s new Tamalpais cologne and keep the holiday-candle conversation going with the Fat Mascara Fam, then Garrett explains how you can create your own hand soap bar to make handwashing this winter more fun.

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Intro:
Death Become Her - on Broadway

News:
Plastic surgeons explain rise of the 'Mar-A-Lago' face
Lindsay Lohan’s transformation stuns fans. Are we in the 'undetectable era' of plastic surgery?
LM Medical
Lucia Clinic - plastic surgery clinic in Dubai
Dr. Heidi Waldorf - dermatologist
Dr. Dhaval Bhanusali - dermatologist
Why Are Women Getting Their Labia…Puffed?
The New Harry’s Fragrance
Harry’s Fragrance | Kin
Harry’s Fragrance | Tamalpais
Vacation | Royal Pine Candle
Trudon Bougie Parfumee Serdar Candle | Fir
Trudon Candle | Abd El Kader

Raise A Wand:
Homework: What candle smells like “the holidays” to you? Call us to tell us, or ask a beauty question, share a thought, or tell us about a product you love: 646-481-8182. You can also email a voice memo to info@fatmascara.com.

Listener Micah: Boy Smells | The Holiday Votive Collection
Garrett & Jenn: Garrett’s Hand Soap Bar featuring:
AESOP | Reverence Aromatique Hand Wash
PENHALIGON'S | Halfeti Body & Hand Wash
HOMECOURT | Neroli Leaf Hand Wash

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The Future of Cosmetic Formulation with Chemist AJ Addae

Cosmetic chemist AJ Addae is the founder of Sula Labs, a company that helps beauty brands develop and test products and ingredients for melanin-rich consumers. She’s here to share her story and talk about the future of sunscreen and clean beauty, how bias affects scientific research, the difference between cosmetics and drugs, exosomes, vitamin C, why she loves sulfur for treating acne, brow lamination (aka, brow lammy), the best ingredients for edge control and brow grooming, her favorite products, and more. If you like Science Corner, you’re going to love this interview with AJ!

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

AJ Addae - chemist and founder of Sula Labs
Sula Labs
Revision Skincare
Sundaily
Glossier
Proactiv Skincare
St. Ives
Drunk Elephant
Exosomes - more about these skincare ingredients
Peter Thomas Roth Sulfur Mask
Beia Bikini & Body Scrub
Tower 28 | MakeWaves Lengthening + Curling Clean Mascara
Revlon Photoready Concealer
Glossier Cloud Paint
La Roche-Posay Toleriane Double Repair Face Moisturizer
Glossier Boy Brow
E.L.F. Cosmetics | Lock On Liner and Brow Cream

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Ep. 558: Dating with Pheromones, Migraine Marketing & The Week’s Beauty News

Jess & Jenn are intrigued by the growing interest in pheromone perfumes. Could they help people find love? Hmm. Plus: L’Oréal’s Louvre tour; investment and acquisition news from Jess’s Business Desk; a rise in products designed to help people who get migraines (aka, migraneurs!); faux candles that don’t look fake; and the anti-frizz treatment spray that made Jenn’s blowout last five days.

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Intro:
Chris McMillan - hairstylist
Nest To Scent Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade Route and Float
Nest New York | Holiday Classic Candle

News:
Young Daters Square Off With Scientists Over Whether Perfume Can Turn People On
Givaudan
Pure Instinct | Pheromone Infused Perfume Oil
L’Oréal wants to take you on a tour of the Louvre
Blanca Juti - L 'Oréal's Chief of Corporate Affairs and Engagement Officer
Christina Nuñez - Co-Founder of True Beauty Ventures
Crown Affair Secures $9M In Series B Funding Round Led By True Beauty Ventures
Dianna Cohen - Founder and CEO at Crown Affair
Sarah Gibson Tuttle’s brand, Olive and June to be acquired by Helen of Troy for $240M
Olive & June Nail Polish
Inside the Growing Migraine and Headache Solution Market

Raise A Wand:
Homework: What candle smells like “the holidays” to you? Call us to tell us, or ask a beauty question, share a thought, or tell us about a product you love: 646-481-8182. You can also email a voice memo to info@fatmascara.com.

Jess: Vinkor Flameless Candles - pack of 9 real wax battery candles with remote
Jenn: Color Wow | Dream Coat Supernatural Spray

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Makeup for “Older” Women with Sonia Ramos

Content creator @officiallysoniaramos calls herself a “mature lady” (lol, she’s 46), but her makeup tips work for Gen Z, Boomers, and everybody in between. She explains how (and why) she let her gray hair grow in at 35, why everybody’s getting their concealer wrong, where to put your blush, the power of the double cleanse, and how to look less tired when you’re feeling “busted and crusted.” This episode features a new introduction but it originally aired in 2023. We'll be back next week with all new episodes!

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Sonia Valencia’s concealer hack
Mario Dedivanovic

Skincare:
Vaseline Original Pure Petroleum Jelly
Dr. Dennis Gross Vitamin C Lactic 15% Firm & Bright Serum
Shani Darden Cleansing Serum
Dermalogica Skin Smoothing Cream
Tatcha the Water Cream
Vanicream Daily Facial Moisturizer
Dermalogica Precleanse

Makeup:
Kvd Vegan Beauty Good Apple Full-Coverage Transfer-Proof Vegan Serum Foundation
Lancôme Teint Idole Ultra 24h Long Lasting Foundation
Lancôme Teint Idole Ultra Wear Care & Glow Serum Foundation
Makeup by Mario Surrealskin Liquid Foundation
Haus Labs Triclone Skin Tech Medium Coverage Foundation with Fermented Arnica
Dior Forever Skin Glow Foundation
Kulfi Beauty Main Match Crease-Proof Long-Wear Hydrating Concealer
Dior Forever Skin Correct Concealer
Lancôme Teint Idole Ultra Wear Camouflage Concealer

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Ep. 557: Wicked Nails, Botanical Oils & The Week’s Beauty News

Jenn & Julee are in the holiday spirit! Let’s talk about which botanical oils are best for your hair type; why Dax Shepard thought it was okay to ask Cynthia Erivo a *very* personal question about her long nails; the huge rise in applications for dermatology residencies; and which candle says “I’m in the holiday season” best. Plus, we raise wands to a room spray that celebrates sanctuaries for African-Americans and a hydrating skincare duo that works for the dryest, most sensitive skin.

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Intro:
Sunset Boulevard - the musical

News:
Dax Shepard Questions Cynthia Erivo’s Nails
Medical residency applications for dermatology slots are up 50% over the past five years
Charlotte Palermino - licensed aesthetician
Science Corner:
Which hair oil is right for your hair type?
Herbal Essences hair products - featuring camelia oil
Shu Uemura’s hair products
Choosing the Right Plant Oil for Hair and Skin Benefits - Jennifer M. Marsh and Sonja Knowles, The Procter & Gamble Co. & Monique S.J. Simmonds, Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
The top five oils used in hair care launches in 2022: coconut oil, jojoba oil, argan oil, shea oil, & sunflower oil
The top five oils used in skin care launches in 2022: sunflower oil, shea oil, jojoba oil, soybean oil, & almond oil
TRILOGY | Certified Organic Rosehip Oil

Raise A Wand:
Homework: What candle smells like “the holidays” to you? Call us to tell us, or ask a beauty question, share a thought, or tell us about a product you love: 646-481-8182. You can also email a voice memo to info@fatmascara.com.

Julee: Nest New York | Holiday Classic Candle, Sanctuaire | The Inkwell Candle
Jenn: The Outset | Nourishing Squalane Daily Moisturizer & The Outset | Ultralight Moisture-Boosting Botanical Oil

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Exploring Nostalgia, Fragrance, and Literature with Professor Perfume

Cozy up and feel all the feels with Emelia O’Toole, aka @professorperfume, who talks about the connection between literature, longing, and perfumery. She and Jenn tease out why nostalgia feels so good, and chat about books, scent memories, the romance of weddings and honeymoons, Dracula, One Direction, and fragrances inspired by chess, Clue, animals, and books. It’s the perfect podcast for a rainy day or chilly night—preferably by a fireplace with a stack of books and a cuppa. Enjoy!

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Emilia O’Toole aka Professor Perfume - her instagram
@professor.perfume on TikTok
Maison Margiela | Replica Discovery Set
Gucci | Memoire Eau de Parfum
Brown Thomas
Byredo
Jo Malone London
Diptyque
Intermezzo - by Sally Rooney
Dior | Sauvage Eau de Parfum
Mind Games | French Defense Extrait de Parfum
Clue | With The Candlestick Eau de Parfum
Clue | Warm Bulb Eau de Parfum
Clue | Morel Map Eau de Parfum
Bohoboco | Magic Mushrooms Perfume
Snif | Vow Factor
Mathilde Bijaoui - perfumer for Emelia’s Snif perfumes
Snif | Honey Suite
Coty | La Rose Jacqueminot
Guerlain | Shalimar
Dior | Miss Dior Eau de Parfum
Chanel | N°5 Eau de Parfum
Jessica McClintok | Eau de Parfum
Ed Hardy | Women’s Eau de Parfum
Lolavie | Restorative Shampoo
Lolavie | Restorative Conditioner
Merit | Clean Lash Lengthening Mascara
LANCÔME | Lash Idôle Lash-Lifting & Volumizing Mascara
Shisedo | Eyelash Curler
Snif | Vow Factor Candle
Liquides Imaginaires | Bloody Wood Eau de Parfum
Laurel Canyon | Thin Wild Mercury
Heretic Parfum | Nosferatu

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